"It means everything to me and my mates – it's a special day."
Big boys don't cry but old soldiers do and on Anzac Day that emotion is never far away from the surface.
That code of silence extends to his wife and children, he said.
All returned home and all put the experience behind them, only to privately acknowledge it on Anzac Day.
Honest about his experience of war, he never saw action, he said. "I was never involved in it – being in a kitchen …but we had our moments."
While, he did not see the action many of his comrades did, he does share the health problems many veterans of the conflict suffer, attributed to chemicals such as Agent Orange.